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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby GeneralJG » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:28 pm

Tried the methods suggested this evening but found the best to be the windex. I think because the runs were so BIG & they had dried a fair bit the adding more pledge method wasn't as successful. It still wasn't 100% successful though but my patience is waning.....

Many thanks for all suggestions!

Spooky I found mine a few years ago (Pledge One Go) at Coles in a larger regional store (not metro) so stocked up in anticipation of all the modelling I would be doing :roll:

So I should be doing two coats before decals? One coat is a bit rough & assume I'm looking for a smooth surface for the decals.

Great suggestion for a different airbrush for the pledge too. :)
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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby A30_737_AEW&C » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:07 am

I've also found more satisfactory results by brushing Future with a larger flat brush after my initial airbrushing failures with it. Windex is always the go for me in cleaning up after Future.
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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby AndrewDoppel » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:28 am

GeneralJG wrote:Tried the methods suggested this evening but found the best to be the windex. I think because the runs were so BIG & they had dried a fair bit the adding more pledge method wasn't as successful. It still wasn't 100% successful though but my patience is waning.....

Many thanks for all suggestions!

Spooky I found mine a few years ago (Pledge One Go) at Coles in a larger regional store (not metro) so stocked up in anticipation of all the modelling I would be doing :roll:

So I should be doing two coats before decals? One coat is a bit rough & assume I'm looking for a smooth surface for the decals.

Great suggestion for a different airbrush for the pledge too. :)


John,

If you look at my Porter and Bou builds, both of them have been done with Pledge One-Go. The Bou so far has had 4 coats on the upper surface and two on the lower. I intend to do two more on the lower surfaces so that I can run a wash thru the lines after decals. You want a fine mist when spraying it in this manner to get a perfect smooth coating.
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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby TonyP » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:35 am

If it hasn't been mentioned before, use a wide brush is easier than airbrushing.
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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby GeneralJG » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:19 am

Thanks Andrew,

I've been playing with different thickness coats (& airbrush pressures) but always seem to have a rough surface instead of really smooth. Is this why you use the micro mesh?

I think I'm going to have to get myself a big brush & give it a go as well. It's just so easy to use the airbrush on the large areas though! Well.......unless you stuff it up.......... :?
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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby AndrewDoppel » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:43 pm

Yes John,

The micro mesh I have been told takes the roughness off the surface and leaves it smooth and has so far work fantastically! Light rubbing only though.
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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby GeneralJG » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:25 pm

Bit grumpy.

Finally got to apply some decals to the B1. I've tried three so far & they've all broken up as I removed them from the backing sheet or water.

I've also sprayed a couple of thick coats of acrylic tamiya gloss clear over the sheet but still bad news. Fox One decals (microscale) probably a bit old.

Do I try more coats of clear or am I wasting my time?

Any other suggestions more than welcome!

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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby A30_737_AEW&C » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:33 pm

John,

Before you attempt to apply any more decals, brush some of this stuff over the sheet you are using. Many hobby shops carry this stuff. It's available locally. I've used it many times, even over artwork I've photocopies or drawn onto decal paper. You will have to trim the decal right up close to the edge of the printed image before dunking it in water. The stuff dries quickly. I'd leave it overnight before dunking the decal. I've used a broad brush. Single overlapping strokes over the decal image/s. This reduces the risk of smearing the images (especially if they are home made decals). I've cleaned the brushes in a lacquer thinner. Windex will probably do the job also. In my experience water wasn't enough to clean the brushes properly.

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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby GeneralJG » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:41 pm

Thanks Alfred!

Got some on the way!
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Re: Messed up. Pledge too thick. Runs....

Postby GeneralJG » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:45 pm

Well I'm calling it finished. Many thanks to all for suggestions! :D

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